Sensational Trials 20th Century – Dawkins Turnip Trial

Scopes Monkey Trial 100 Years Ago On The Button

Unbeknownst to me, I started writing this on July 9, 2020.  One hundred years to the day after the start of the Scopes Monkey Trial.  Today 100 years to the day later I prosecute the Dawkins Turnip Trial.  I did not know this until I looked the dates up when I was about 3/4 the way through writing it.


The evolution paradigm has run to mud and where many claim there is evidence the other side argues there is not and so we are left in the gray with subjective disagreements.

Objective Evidence

Personally, I am as an engineer and historically also very successful arguing the law.  Objective evidence is evidence that demands a verdict.  It is either true or it is not true on its face.

Object fact cannot be denied.  Building a case such as a case in a court of law requires proving the objective facts before a trier of fact (the judge) and perhaps a jury.

The plaintiff (prosecutor in criminal matter) has an attorney there to prove his case for liability on the part of the defendant or not.  He or they are liable whether a criminal or civil matter beyond doubt or by the preponderance of the evidence in a civil case.

Civil matters are slightly more subjective than criminal matters where the fundamental right to life and liberty are at stake the U.S. Constitution guarantees the defendant the right to have the prosecution prove their case for guilt, “beyond a reasonable doubt.”


I know for certain I can convict God of being God, in any reasonable court of law.  Richard Dawkins cannot convict evolution as truth by any stretch.


Rod Serling:  Imagine a world … .

Richard Dawkins debates.  All of the debates over evolution vs. creation/intelligent design etc. must remain subjective because:  First) I’m not debating anyone; Second) none of them would debate me anyway.

Here’s how it would go.  Richard Dawkins would give his opening argument using all sorts of biology science jargon which I have read and find mind numbing and boring.  Tedious is a good word.

Then I would do likewise explaining there is one foundational hard science called Physics, its language, calculus, differential and integral, algebra, geometry, trigonometry and statistics.  Physics completely facilitates all the others and since it is not possible to have any others without Physics the very foundation of the creation, not subjective conjecture as the argument for thousands vs. millions or billions of years old subjectivity is all these other sciences have to work with into these questions.

Further the God of the Bible boasts he tells the end from the beginning so we have an objective challenge from the writer of the Bible, or not.  There is no subjectivity God has allowed himself, what he has said is either objectively true or it is objectively false.

But we will never see them agree to the rules I’d demand.  No rules, in a handball court.  (A bunch of guys and girls in Kansas City know what I’m saying here, a memorial to a great man).

Richard Dawkins would then offer some of the very intelligent rhetoric he is known for perhaps my favorite Richard Dawkins quote:

“Evolution is a fact. Beyond reasonable doubt, beyond serious doubt, beyond sane, informed, intelligent doubt, beyond doubt evolution is a fact. The evidence for evolution is at least as strong as the evidence for the Holocaust, even allowing for eye witnesses to the Holocaust. It is the plain truth that we are cousins of chimpanzees, somewhat more distant cousins of monkeys, more distant cousins still of aardvarks and manatees, yet more distant cousins of bananas and turnips…continue the list as long as desired. That didn’t have to be true. It is not self-evidently, tautologically, obviously true, and there was a time when most people, even educated people, thought it wasn’t. It didn’t have to be true, but it is. We know this because a rising flood of evidence supports it. Evolution is a fact, and this book will demonstrate it. No reputable scientist disputes it, and no unbiased reader will close the book doubting it.”  Richard Dawkins from Greatest Show On Earth

So Dawkins here says something like this or even something brilliant and either way his claim of evidence is nonsense in the face of the objective evidence presented by God.

Then I step over to the whiteboard and begin to state God’s words and reveal the objective evidence starting slow with Daniel 8: 13, 14:

Then I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to him, “How long will it take for the vision to be fulfilled—the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, the rebellion that causes desolation, the surrender of the sanctuary and the trampling underfoot of the Lord’s people?”  He said to me, “It will take 2300 evenings and mornings; then the sanctuary will be reconsecrated.”  (NIV)

Daniel 8: 17-21:  Angel speaking to Daniel at verse 20, 21:

“The Ram The two-horned ram that you saw represents the kings of Media and Persia. 21 The shaggy goat is the king of Greece, and the large horn between its eyes is the first king. 22 The four horns that replaced the one that was broken off represent four kingdoms that will emerge from his nation but will not have the same power.” (NIV)

In 334 B.C. or BCE if you like, Alexander the Great crossed the River Granicus and defeated the Medo-Persians.

Counting 2300 Evenings and Mornings (Passover) from there (334 BC/BCE) we land in 1967 A.D. or CE.  No year zero in Calendars so we add 1 for that year.

(-) 334 + 1 + 2300 = 1967

Looking back at Dan. 8: 13, 14 clear language of the angel telling us (Daniel) the end of trampling and reconsecration of the temple would occur after the 2300 Evenings and Mornings.  OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE on the timeline of history in the 20th Century.

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I am tickled when I think, “What would Dawkins, Harris, Dennet or Ehrman have to say?  Would the room be silent?  Probably not yet.

I really don’t know.  No, I have not read Dawkins’ Books because I know they are incorrect as Darwin also incorrect because as I learned, being an engineer from the work of Physicists, Dr. Barnes and then Dr. Russel Humphreys who presented a model, in peer reviewed Science Journals, based on Barnes’s work and used his model to successfully predict the strength of magnetic field of Neptune and Uranus.

The evolutionist Physicists (old time billions of years required for evolution) then began their usual subjective attempts at denial, however, their earth as magneto model has not proven out.

The magnetic field according to Dr. Humphreys’s Objective Measured Data of the earth’s magnetic field decay indicates the earth is no older than 10,000 years and will not be here in 2,000 more years.

Voyager provided accurate measure from Neptune and Uranus with Dr. Humphreys’ Objective Evidence in predictions.  The good doctor’s model has proven accurate. So let’s move on here with the Dawkins Turnip Trial.

Jeremiah prophesied in Jerusalem.  Jeremiah 25: 11:

“This whole country will become a desolate wasteland, and these nations will serve the king of Babylon seventy years.”  (NIV)

God said to Ezekiel while in forced labor near Babylon, during that 70 years, at Ez. 4: 4-6:

“Then lie on your left side and put the sin of the people of Israel upon yourself. You are to bear their sin for the number of days you lie on your side. I have assigned you the same number of days as the years of their sin. So for 390 days you will bear the sin of the people of Israel.

“After you have finished this, lie down again, this time on your right side, and bear the sin of the people of Judah. I have assigned you 40 days, a day for each year. (NIV)

Nebuchadnezzar conquered Israel in 606 B.C. BCE if you like.  In 583 B.C. he stopped the daily sacrifice.  Chronicles, Ezra and extra biblical history (Babylonian Business Tablets) tell us this.

So here we have from Jeremiah and Ezekiel during the 70 years desolation 390 + 40 = 430 -70 =  360.

So per this we should have seen the return of Israel in 360 years from 606 B.C. BCE if you like.

Here’s why you have to know the scriptures more adequately Bart.  In Leviticus 26, the Lord had promised Israel extra curses for continuing in disobedience.  Leviticus 26: 18:

“‘If after all this you will not listen to me, I will punish you for your sins seven times over.” (NIV)

Leviticus 26: 21:

 “‘If you remain hostile toward me and refuse to listen to me, I will multiply your afflictions seven times over, as your sins deserve.” (NIV)

Leviticus 26: 23, 24:

“‘If in spite of these things you do not accept my correction but continue to be hostile toward me, 24 I myself will be hostile toward you and will afflict you for your sins seven times over.”  (NIV)

Leviticus 26: 26, 27:

“When I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will be able to bake your bread in one oven, and they will dole out the bread by weight. You will eat, but you will not be satisfied.

27 “‘If in spite of this you still do not listen to me but continue to be hostile toward me, 28 then in my anger I will be hostile toward you, and I myself will punish you for your sins seven times over.” (NIV)

So seven times 360 = 2520 years.  But years before Julius Caesar gave us the Julian Solar Calendar were lunar years with 30 days per month.  Our years are now Gregorian per Pope Gregory because Caesar’s calendar was 11 minutes per year too long.

So we need to convert to get them to match our reckoning.

360 (lunar) / 365.24 (Gregorian solar year) = .9857 (rounded off)

And accordingly,

2520 X .9857 =  2483 years.

But where do we start?  Bart one more time you need to know the scriptures more adequately.  At the end of Jeremiah’s 70 years.  In 536 B.C. CE if you like Cyrus issued the decree to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem.  This is confirmed by the clay baton found containing Cyrus’ decree.  (Google it) In Ezra 3: 1-3:

“When the seventh month came and the Israelites had settled in their towns, the people assembled together as one in Jerusalem. Then Joshua son of Jozadak and his fellow priests and Zerubbabel son of Shealtiel and his associates began to build the altar of the God of Israel to sacrifice burnt offerings on it, in accordance with what is written in the Law of Moses the man of God. Despite their fear of the peoples around them, they built the altar on its foundation and sacrificed burnt offerings on it to the Lord, both the morning and evening sacrifices.” (NIV)

 Month Nissan in KJV means first of the month of Nissan.  So let’s see when God said the nation of Israel would return, shall we?

(-) 536 B.C. +1 (year zero) + 2483.9 = Guess What:  1948 A.D. CE if you like.

Now what could Dawkins say?  What could Harris offer?  Dennet? Dr. Ehrman? Richard Price? The room would be silent.  Right off the page in scripture we have specific Objective Evidence in God’s prediction of the rebirth of Israel as a nation in 1948 and the retaking of the temple in Jerusalem in 1967 both events we witnessed in modern history.

Like I said, I don’t know how Dawkins will try to answer this, but he, Darwin and all evolutionists have Objective Evidence to overcome.  I am beating Clarence Darrow here, this time with Objective Evidence.  The “Dawkins Turnip Trial” is far from over.  One more amazing math problem (actually 3, related ones God has woven together into one, in his mercy for you here) and another objectively evidenced prediction we’ll be in recess. Watch this:

Jesus in Matthew 24 predicts many things several of them fulfilled some as yet unfulfilled.  Here we will focus on two verses, Matthew 24: 15, 16:

“So when you see standing in the holy place ‘the abomination that causes desolation,’ spoken of through the prophet Daniel—let the reader understand— 16 then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”  (NIV)

I am one of those readers, Jesus indicated, who understands.  So Daniel 12 is where we find the reference Jesus points us too.

12: 3, 4 says:

“Those who are wise will shine like the brightness of the heavens, and those who lead many to righteousness, like the stars for ever and ever. But you, Daniel, roll up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge.” (NIV)

 Follow me.

What Jesus prophesied “let the reader understand” involves the “abomination of desolation.”  Antiochus  Epiphanies (Seleucid King, his father inherited his kingdom at Alexander’s death) set an altar to Zeus in the holy of holies in the temple and sacrificed a pig on it.   Daniel 12: 9-12:

“He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand. [Contrast “let the reader understand”, Mt. 24]

11 “From the time that the daily sacrifice is abolished and the abomination that causes desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12 Blessed is the one who waits for and reaches the end of the 1,335 days.” (NIV)

The sacrifice in Daniel’s time was abolished by Nebuchadnezzar in 583 B.C. BCE if you like.  1290 days as years per the Lord in Ezekiel 4.

1290 X .9857 = 1271.5  >>> 1271.5 – 583 = 688.5 A.D. CE if you like. 

Year mathematically when the abomination of desolation was “SET UP in the holy place.”  The temple as Daniel predicted.  Jesus knew this math problem was here for a few of us to find.

John also talked about the temple in Revelation 11: 1, 2:

“I was given a reed like a measuring rod and was told, “Go and measure the temple of God and the altar, with its worshipers. But exclude the outer court; do not measure it, because it has been given to the Gentiles. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months.” (NIV)

The Gentiles trampling on the Holy City ends in 1967.  So John lived at the other end of time from Daniel.  John’s months are 30.44 days long.

So 42 X 30.44 = 1278.5

1967-1278.5 = Are you ready? = 688.5  Again!

In 688.5 the temple was cleared by Muslims to found the Dome of the Rock.  That would be the abomination of desolation, when Jesus told those in Jerusalem to flee.

Do I hate Muslims like Dawkins, Hitchens, Harris and Dennet?  NO, I tell you the truth and you will find the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob who sent his Son to take away the sins of the whole world when you search for him with your whole heart.

But those listening who reject God are on their way to the Valley of Jezreel.  Armageddon!  Ezekiel 38, 39.  All as foretold by the God of the Bible.


Daniel’s 1335 days relate back to Jesus in Mt. 24 telling those who were in Jerusalem to flee when they saw the abomination set up.  This is also dual in nature whereby there is another day coming for those in Jerusalem to flee.

1335 X .9857 = 1315.9.  1315.9 – 583 = 732.9 

The year of the Battle of Tours when Charles Martel miraculously and against all odds decimated the Muslim Caliphate Army invading France from conquered Spain.  Leaving Europe outside the Muslim Curtain and the Jews remnant safe until the 1930s.

One more thing Jesus predicted there in Matthew 24.  The gospel will be preached in the entire world and then the end will come.  More Objective Evidence!

Romans 15: 8-13:

“For I tell you that Christ has become a servant of the Jews on behalf of God’s truth, so that the promises made to the patriarchs might be confirmed and, moreover, that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy. As it is written:

“Therefore I will praise you among the Gentiles;
    I will sing the praises of your name.”

10 Again, it says,

“Rejoice, you Gentiles, with his people.”

11 And again,

“Praise the Lord, all you Gentiles;
    let all the peoples extol him.”

12 And again, Isaiah says,

“The Root of Jesse will spring up,
    one who will arise to rule over the nations;
    in him the Gentiles will hope.”

13 May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit.” (NIV)

Revelation 19:  6-10:

“Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:

    For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
Let us rejoice and be glad
    and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
    and his bride has made herself ready.
Fine linen, bright and clean,
    was given her to wear.”

(Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of God’s holy people.)

Then the angel said to me, “Write this: Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!” And he added, “These are the true words of God.”

10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers and sisters who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For it is the Spirit of prophecy who bears testimony to Jesus.” (NIV)

God has given you Objective Evidence and his invitation to mercy, whoever and wherever you are.

Romans 10: 9-13:

“If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”  (NIV)

And so men like Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens Dan Dennet and Bart Ehrman are without excuse, as Paul apostle to the Gentiles their rulers and Israel states.


Thank you for visiting.  Thank you for reading God’s Objective evidence.  Please accept his invitation the free gift of grace in his mercy by faith in the Risen One, Jesus Christ the righteous who speaks to the Father in our defense.  This Court Is In Recess.











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